{"id":3741,"date":"2022-02-22T08:00:00","date_gmt":"2022-02-22T07:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.theprojectgroup.com\/podcast-projektmanagement\/?p=3741"},"modified":"2022-08-30T14:09:34","modified_gmt":"2022-08-30T12:09:34","slug":"produktdenken-im-projektmanagement","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.theprojectgroup.com\/podcast-projektmanagement\/produktdenken-im-projektmanagement\/","title":{"rendered":"#58 Projekt und Produkt &#8211; mit der richtigen Denkweise ein Dreamteam!"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-audio\"><audio controls src=\"https:\/\/cdn.podigee.com\/media\/podcast_13386_projektmanagement_fur_unternehmen_episode_667710_58_projekt_und_produkt_mit_der_richtigen_denkweise_ein_dreamteam.mp3?v=1645191304&amp;source=user_backend&amp;dl=1\"><\/audio><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Projekt und Produktmanagement sind bekanntlich zwei getrennte Disziplinen. Geht es im Projektmangement um die Organisation, Nachverfolgung und Durchf\u00fchrung der Aufgaben im Rahmen eines Projekts, zielt das Produktmanagement darauf ab, die im Unternehmen entwickelten Produkte weiterzuentwickeln, am Markt erfolgreich zu etablieren und zu skalieren.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Im heutigen Podcast erkl\u00e4ren uns die beiden Agile Experten Johannes Schartau und Philipp Pelka, wie Sie Prinzipien aus dem Produktmanagement in agile Methoden integrieren, und je nach Komplexit\u00e4tsgrad das richtige Vorgehen w\u00e4hlen.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Viele Spa\u00df beim Reinh\u00f6ren!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Mit Johannes Schartau und Philipp Pelka<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-layout-1 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"1024\" src=\"https:\/\/www.theprojectgroup.com\/podcast-projektmanagement\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/Johannes-Schartau-1024x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-3742\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.theprojectgroup.com\/podcast-projektmanagement\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/Johannes-Schartau-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.theprojectgroup.com\/podcast-projektmanagement\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/Johannes-Schartau-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.theprojectgroup.com\/podcast-projektmanagement\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/Johannes-Schartau-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.theprojectgroup.com\/podcast-projektmanagement\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/Johannes-Schartau-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.theprojectgroup.com\/podcast-projektmanagement\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/Johannes-Schartau-270x270.jpg 270w, https:\/\/www.theprojectgroup.com\/podcast-projektmanagement\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/Johannes-Schartau-526x526.jpg 526w, https:\/\/www.theprojectgroup.com\/podcast-projektmanagement\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/Johannes-Schartau.jpg 1181w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-megaphone-bg-color has-megaphone-bg-alt-1-background-color has-text-color has-background\">Johannes Schartau ist Berater, Trainer und Coach f\u00fcr agile Produkt- und Organisationsentwicklung bei Holisticon in Hamburg. Ihn interessiert, wie agiles Arbeiten \u00fcber alle Rollen und Ebenen hinweg nachhaltig gelingen kann. Mit Liberating Structures, integraler und Komplexit\u00e4tstheorie, sowie Humor und Empathie schafft er R\u00e4ume f\u00fcr Gruppen, in denen sie selber wirksam werden k\u00f6nnen.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Hier geht es zum LinkedIn-Profil:<br><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/johannes-schartau\">linkedin.com\/in\/johannes-schartau<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"945\" height=\"945\" src=\"https:\/\/www.theprojectgroup.com\/podcast-projektmanagement\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/PhilippPelka_8x8.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-3743\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.theprojectgroup.com\/podcast-projektmanagement\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/PhilippPelka_8x8.png 945w, https:\/\/www.theprojectgroup.com\/podcast-projektmanagement\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/PhilippPelka_8x8-300x300.png 300w, https:\/\/www.theprojectgroup.com\/podcast-projektmanagement\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/PhilippPelka_8x8-150x150.png 150w, https:\/\/www.theprojectgroup.com\/podcast-projektmanagement\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/PhilippPelka_8x8-768x768.png 768w, https:\/\/www.theprojectgroup.com\/podcast-projektmanagement\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/PhilippPelka_8x8-270x270.png 270w, https:\/\/www.theprojectgroup.com\/podcast-projektmanagement\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/PhilippPelka_8x8-526x526.png 526w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 945px) 100vw, 945px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-megaphone-bg-color has-megaphone-bg-alt-1-background-color has-text-color has-background\">Philipp Pelka arbeitet als agile Coach bei der Holisticon AG und begleitet Unternehmen bei ihrer agilen Transformation. Philipp hat selber viele Jahren in den Rollen Product Owner und Scrum Master gearbeitet. Gerade das Thema Product Ownership treibt ihn an und ist f\u00fcr ihn eine der Grundlagen, um in unserer dynamischen und komplexen Welt als Organisation einen Unterschied zu machen.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Hier geht es zum LinkedIn-Profil:<br><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/philipp-pelka-6625581b9\">linkedin.com\/in\/philipp-pelka-6625581b9<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator is-style-wide\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-large-font-size\">Sprungmarken<\/p>\n\n\n\n<span class=\"meks-ap-timestamp\" class=\"wp-block-meks-audio-player-timestamp\"><a href=\"javascript:void(0)\" class=\"meks-jump-player\" data-minutes=\"00\" data-seconds=\"00\">00:00<\/a><span>Intro<\/span><\/span>\n\n\n\n<span class=\"meks-ap-timestamp\" class=\"wp-block-meks-audio-player-timestamp\"><a href=\"javascript:void(0)\" class=\"meks-jump-player\" data-minutes=\"00\" data-seconds=\"59\">00:59<\/a><span>Warum Produktdenken im Agilen so wichtig ist<\/span><\/span>\n\n\n\n<span class=\"meks-ap-timestamp\" class=\"wp-block-meks-audio-player-timestamp\"><a href=\"javascript:void(0)\" class=\"meks-jump-player\" data-minutes=\"02\" data-seconds=\"36\">02:36<\/a><span>Kompliziert vs. komplex<\/span><\/span>\n\n\n\n<span class=\"meks-ap-timestamp\" class=\"wp-block-meks-audio-player-timestamp\"><a href=\"javascript:void(0)\" class=\"meks-jump-player\" data-minutes=\"07\" data-seconds=\"10\">07:10<\/a><span>Problem der Phasen im Projekt<\/span><\/span>\n\n\n\n<span class=\"meks-ap-timestamp\" class=\"wp-block-meks-audio-player-timestamp\"><a href=\"javascript:void(0)\" class=\"meks-jump-player\" data-minutes=\"09\" data-seconds=\"21\">09:21<\/a><span>Beispiele f\u00fcr die Produktdenkweise <\/span><\/span>\n\n\n\n<span class=\"meks-ap-timestamp\" class=\"wp-block-meks-audio-player-timestamp\"><a href=\"javascript:void(0)\" class=\"meks-jump-player\" data-minutes=\"23\" data-seconds=\"24\">23:24<\/a><span>Gibt es nur entweder oder?<\/span><\/span>\n\n\n\n<span class=\"meks-ap-timestamp\" class=\"wp-block-meks-audio-player-timestamp\"><a href=\"javascript:void(0)\" class=\"meks-jump-player\" data-minutes=\"25\" data-seconds=\"36\">25:36<\/a><span>Herausforderungen<\/span><\/span>\n\n\n\n<span class=\"meks-ap-timestamp\" class=\"wp-block-meks-audio-player-timestamp\"><a href=\"javascript:void(0)\" class=\"meks-jump-player\" data-minutes=\"31\" data-seconds=\"58\">31:58<\/a><span>Erste Schritte<\/span><\/span>\n\n\n\n<span class=\"meks-ap-timestamp\" class=\"wp-block-meks-audio-player-timestamp\"><a href=\"javascript:void(0)\" class=\"meks-jump-player\" data-minutes=\"34\" data-seconds=\"47\">34:47<\/a><span>Know-how f\u00fcr den Umstieg<\/span><\/span>\n\n\n\n<span class=\"meks-ap-timestamp\" class=\"wp-block-meks-audio-player-timestamp\"><a href=\"javascript:void(0)\" class=\"meks-jump-player\" data-minutes=\"37\" data-seconds=\"41\">37:41<\/a><span>Warum agil oft nicht reicht<\/span><\/span>\n\n\n\n<span class=\"meks-ap-timestamp\" class=\"wp-block-meks-audio-player-timestamp\"><a href=\"javascript:void(0)\" class=\"meks-jump-player\" data-minutes=\"42\" data-seconds=\"45\">42:45<\/a><span>Das Wichtigste zusammengefasst <\/span><\/span>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator is-style-wide\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-large-font-size\">Relevante Links<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Lean Product Lifecycle<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul><li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.de\/Lean-Product-Lifecycle-Tendayi-Viki\/dp\/1292186410\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">https:\/\/www.amazon.de\/Lean-Product-Lifecycle-Tendayi-Viki\/dp\/1292186410<\/a><\/li><li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.leanproductlifecycle.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">https:\/\/www.leanproductlifecycle.com<\/a><\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>Marty Cagan: <a href=\"https:\/\/svpg.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">https:\/\/svpg.com<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Teresa Torres<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul><li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.producttalk.org\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">https:\/\/www.producttalk.org<\/a><\/li><li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.de\/Continuous-Discovery-Habits-Discover-Products\/dp\/1736633309\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">https:\/\/www.amazon.de\/Continuous-Discovery-Habits-Discover-Products\/dp\/1736633309\/<\/a><\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>Roman Pichler:<a href=\"https:\/\/www.romanpichler.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"> https:\/\/www.romanpichler.com<\/a><br><br>Produktwerker: <a href=\"https:\/\/produktwerker.de\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">https:\/\/produktwerker.de<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator is-style-wide\"\/>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Weitere PPM-Infos <\/h2>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns are-vertically-aligned-top tpg-channels is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-layout-2 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-vertically-aligned-top is-layout-flow 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